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		<title>Comment on Elections 2009: a post in two parts by Could Jackanory sell the story of Social Media? &#171; Stop, Collaborate and Listen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Could Jackanory sell the story of Social Media? &#171; Stop, Collaborate and Listen</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] CC about the use of social media to promote and share the results of the election.  Here the link to the [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Do councils need websites? by william harrison ainsworth</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahlay.com/2009/10/do-councils-need-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-2174</link>
		<dc:creator>william harrison ainsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been announced. These include categories such as best new restaurant and rising star chef, but alsoSarah Lay Blog Archive Do councils need websites?william perrin Says: December 8th, 2009 at 1:30 pm. You could go further in the theme of your title [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The future of journalism by Dan Slee</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahlay.com/2010/02/the-future-of-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-1942</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Slee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah,

This is an excellent post and just shows that a few weeks on I&#039;m only just catching up with much of what was said at #ukgc10. I would have loved to attend this session as it deals with a big part of what I&#039;m doing in Walsall. But it clashed with Liz&#039;s website session and I learned loads there.

Where to start?

I don&#039;t hold with the idea that you can&#039;t deal with bloggers. You should go where the conversation is. If that&#039;s the letters page of the Express &amp; Star, then go there. If it&#039;s the weekly journalist then go there. If it&#039;s a blog with 500 unique visitors a month then go there. It really makes no odds. I simply don&#039;t hold with the veteran journalist turned press officer position that you can only talk to hacks. And I say that as an NUJ member who worked on papers for 13 years.

We put bloggers on our mailing lists for press releases at their request. Why? To that I answer &#039;why not?&#039;. No, they don&#039;t always get cut and pasted in the fashion of an underpaid journalist who is looking for 4 x 20cm pieces in 15 minutes to get a page away. But I don&#039;t really expect that. What it does do is provide the council position before Chinese whispers get carried away.

Michael Grimes&#039; adapted flow chart for speaking to bloggers (and Tweeters) is excellent and codifies the approach that we have been experimenting with in Walsall. To put that simply, if people are being unreasonable then you can&#039;t move things on. If they are being mis-guided then what&#039;s not to like about giving a steer and a link to helpful information?

 I agree entirely with Sharon O&#039;Dea about presumed competence. Where you know something about a subject you can comment. And yes, in your own name identifying where you are from. If it&#039;s something you are unsure of a holding comment and a piece - in clear English - from a relevant offcer can work well. The traditional model of getting a statement and clearing a statement past half a dozen just won&#039;t wash. Social media is just too fast for that. But I&#039;m guessing that we&#039;ve all woken up to that. Right?

You are dead right in saying that press officers too need to adapt. They need to be blog-savvy. They need to know their way around Twitter and Facebook and they need to know what a Flip does too. For a starter.

I like the lecture by the BBC&#039;s Robert Peston which spoke of how a journalist needs to write, as questions, blog, tweet and do a whole load of stuff that their forerunners never had to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah,</p>
<p>This is an excellent post and just shows that a few weeks on I&#8217;m only just catching up with much of what was said at #ukgc10. I would have loved to attend this session as it deals with a big part of what I&#8217;m doing in Walsall. But it clashed with Liz&#8217;s website session and I learned loads there.</p>
<p>Where to start?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hold with the idea that you can&#8217;t deal with bloggers. You should go where the conversation is. If that&#8217;s the letters page of the Express &amp; Star, then go there. If it&#8217;s the weekly journalist then go there. If it&#8217;s a blog with 500 unique visitors a month then go there. It really makes no odds. I simply don&#8217;t hold with the veteran journalist turned press officer position that you can only talk to hacks. And I say that as an NUJ member who worked on papers for 13 years.</p>
<p>We put bloggers on our mailing lists for press releases at their request. Why? To that I answer &#8216;why not?&#8217;. No, they don&#8217;t always get cut and pasted in the fashion of an underpaid journalist who is looking for 4 x 20cm pieces in 15 minutes to get a page away. But I don&#8217;t really expect that. What it does do is provide the council position before Chinese whispers get carried away.</p>
<p>Michael Grimes&#8217; adapted flow chart for speaking to bloggers (and Tweeters) is excellent and codifies the approach that we have been experimenting with in Walsall. To put that simply, if people are being unreasonable then you can&#8217;t move things on. If they are being mis-guided then what&#8217;s not to like about giving a steer and a link to helpful information?</p>
<p> I agree entirely with Sharon O&#8217;Dea about presumed competence. Where you know something about a subject you can comment. And yes, in your own name identifying where you are from. If it&#8217;s something you are unsure of a holding comment and a piece &#8211; in clear English &#8211; from a relevant offcer can work well. The traditional model of getting a statement and clearing a statement past half a dozen just won&#8217;t wash. Social media is just too fast for that. But I&#8217;m guessing that we&#8217;ve all woken up to that. Right?</p>
<p>You are dead right in saying that press officers too need to adapt. They need to be blog-savvy. They need to know their way around Twitter and Facebook and they need to know what a Flip does too. For a starter.</p>
<p>I like the lecture by the BBC&#8217;s Robert Peston which spoke of how a journalist needs to write, as questions, blog, tweet and do a whole load of stuff that their forerunners never had to.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Crisis comms online by uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by sarahlay: Blogged: #ukgc10 session on #uksnow &amp; crisis comms online: http://bit.ly/bfGAJW...</description>
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<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by sarahlay: Blogged: #ukgc10 session on #uksnow &amp; crisis comms online: <a href="http://bit.ly/bfGAJW..." rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bfGAJW&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Snow&#8230;to go! by Sarah Lay &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Crisis comms online</title>
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		<description>[...] content delivery not just through the online channel but also make it mobile (I blogged about our stats on visits from mobile and other devices during the January snow). From this a discussion on digital inclusion began with differing views across the participants [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The future of journalism by uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by sarahlay: Blogged: The future of journalism session at #ukgc10: http://bit.ly/99G4ey...</description>
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		<title>Comment on Snow&#8230;to go! by uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by sarahlay: @helenewilliams here is the post on snow (sort of) that I said I&#039;d get round to writing! http://bit.ly/6azyPg...</description>
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<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by sarahlay: @helenewilliams here is the post on snow (sort of) that I said I&#8217;d get round to writing! <a href="http://bit.ly/6azyPg..." rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/6azyPg&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Social internal communications by Mike Klein</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahlay.com/2010/01/social-internal-communications/comment-page-1/#comment-1806</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comment about &quot;social media being what the intranet was originally supposed to be about.&quot;  Funny thing you should mention that--about 6-7 years ago, I was pushing for conversation mapping and the use of social network analysis software in organizations--which effectively would have given organizations clear pictures of influence and focus and interest within their communities.  

The response, generally, was one of aggressive disinterest, with people claiming such tools would amount to an &#039;organizational autopsy&#039; and provide unwanted confirmation about the demise of top-down-one-size-fits-all communication.  So, in rejecting social network applications, organizations sealed the fate of intranets as yet another top-down, largely one-way channel, consuming resources in excess of their impact in many cases.

The advent of social media--in effect--doesn&#039;t necessarily include mapping, but it allows the relationships behind those maps and connections to be more visible, the best connections most easily engaged, and organizational defense of top-down-one-size-fits-all to be weakened, but not necessarily fully overcome.  

Mike Klein--The Intersection, Brussels
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comment about &#8220;social media being what the intranet was originally supposed to be about.&#8221;  Funny thing you should mention that&#8211;about 6-7 years ago, I was pushing for conversation mapping and the use of social network analysis software in organizations&#8211;which effectively would have given organizations clear pictures of influence and focus and interest within their communities.  </p>
<p>The response, generally, was one of aggressive disinterest, with people claiming such tools would amount to an &#8216;organizational autopsy&#8217; and provide unwanted confirmation about the demise of top-down-one-size-fits-all communication.  So, in rejecting social network applications, organizations sealed the fate of intranets as yet another top-down, largely one-way channel, consuming resources in excess of their impact in many cases.</p>
<p>The advent of social media&#8211;in effect&#8211;doesn&#8217;t necessarily include mapping, but it allows the relationships behind those maps and connections to be more visible, the best connections most easily engaged, and organizational defense of top-down-one-size-fits-all to be weakened, but not necessarily fully overcome.  </p>
<p>Mike Klein&#8211;The Intersection, Brussels<br />
<a href="http://intersectionblog.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://intersectionblog.wordpress.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on LocalGov group hug* by Tweets that mention Sarah Lay » Blog Archive » LocalGov group hug* -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by sarahlay, PublicSectorBloggers. PublicSectorBloggers said: LocalGov group hug*: A slightly unusual name for the first session I attended at UKGovCamp10, suggested and led by... http://bit.ly/8JjJ3r [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on LocalGov group hug* by Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reply Michele :)

I agree that it would definitely be harder or at least a bigger step for someone outside of comms to get started on this road. I hope in my organisation being a contact point for them would allow confidence in going forward as well as offering advice.

I think your points about sustainability are interesting. It sounds like I&#039;m doing something similar to you although perhaps in a different way. We have a couple of corporate things run by me but everything else we&#039;ve got going is run by people in the service areas. They have my guidance and support (and that of the rest of my team - not just me!) but do the updates etc themselves.

I agree that this is really important if social media is to be used more widely throughout organisation. I like the idea of surgeries :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply Michele <img src='http://www.sarahlay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I agree that it would definitely be harder or at least a bigger step for someone outside of comms to get started on this road. I hope in my organisation being a contact point for them would allow confidence in going forward as well as offering advice.</p>
<p>I think your points about sustainability are interesting. It sounds like I&#8217;m doing something similar to you although perhaps in a different way. We have a couple of corporate things run by me but everything else we&#8217;ve got going is run by people in the service areas. They have my guidance and support (and that of the rest of my team &#8211; not just me!) but do the updates etc themselves.</p>
<p>I agree that this is really important if social media is to be used more widely throughout organisation. I like the idea of surgeries <img src='http://www.sarahlay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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